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Gingrich: I would ignore supreme court as president

Gingrich: I would ignore supreme court as president

and I thought the Republicans were big on acting in “true Constitutional manner”, originalists as some like to call themselves. It does look like the right’s candidates this electoral season are like every other politician in history – stating they are one type of person while acting in a completely opposite manner.

Newt Gingrich has pledged that on his first day as president he will set up a constitutional showdown by ordering the military to defy a supreme court ruling extending some legal rights to foreign terrorism suspects and captured enemy combatants in US custody.

The Republican contender told a forum of anti-abortion activists ahead of South Carolina’s primary election that as president he would ignore supreme court rulings he regards as legally flawed. He implied that would also extend to the 1973 decision, Roe vs Wade, legalising abortion.

“If the court makes a fundamentally wrong decision, the president can in fact ignore it,” said Gingrich to cheers.

The Republican contender, who has made no secret of his disdain for the judiciary, said that as president he would expect to have repeated showdowns with the supreme court. He said the court would lose because it is the least powerful and least accountable arm of government.

Why I do believe the Newtster sees himself as a 21st C Andrew Jackson. The President who when told the Supreme Court in 1832 had ordered the state of Georgia to drop its claim of sovereignty over the Cherokee people, that the Cherokee and other Native American tribes were sovereign nations, famously (and supposedly) replied, “What army do they have?”

Naturally it’s OKIYAR to defy the Supreme Court, but if the President is a Dem any such action automatically makes him subject for impeachment.
Obama Defies Court, Now A Dictator and that was a single federal judge, not the Supreme Court


Holiday Hiatus

See ya in 2012!

My best wishes to all of my readers for the holiday season and hopes for all that 2012 is not only a good year but also an ‘interesting’ one.

One Thing Americans Need – better history education

This post is a comment I made on another WordPress blog,
A Father’s Apocalypse
with a few edits to clarify the points I was trying to make.

Go and read the post there to understand what I have written here. My first clue as to the blogger’s take on things was found in his blogroll where he includes Glenn Beck, Drudge and David Barton.

The years leading up to the creation of the Constitution with the influence of the various churches upon the governance of the colonies were exactly why the men who wrote that document intended to keep religion, of any nature, out of the government, not out of civil society but certainly away from the halls of legislation.

Thomas Jefferson was justly proud of three actions he had undertaken during his political career, so proud of them that he had those three acts placed on his tombstone:

“Here was buried Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of American Independence, of the Statute of Virginia for Religious Freedom, and father of the University of Virginia.”

from Jefferson’s autobiography, writing about the Statute of Virginia for Religious Freedom

Where the preamble declares that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word “Jesus Christ,” so that it should read “a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion.” The insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend within the mantle of its protection the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo and infidel of every denomination.

When Jefferson wrote, “priest-ridden people” he was not writing about the Roman Catholic Church as some revisionists would have you believe, but of all religions that demand the presence of a person with ‘special knowledge’ to lead any group of “believers”. Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Alexander von Humboldt (6 December 1813)

History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.

Explaining to John Adams as to why and how he came to create what we know today as the “Jefferson Bible”, Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, on Christian scriptures (24 January 1814)

The whole history of these books is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills.

Were the Founding Fathers as religious as David Barton and others would like you to believe? Certainly those who were lived closer to their time didn’t think so –

…the proceedings as published by Thompson, the secretary, show, that the question was gravely debated in Congress whether God should in the Constitution or not, and after solemn debate he was deliberately voted out of it: … the men whose arguments swayed to vote God out of the Constitution, to declare that there should be no religious test, and that Congress should make no law to establish religion, were atheists in principle; that among all our presidents from Washington downward, not one was professor of religion, at least not of more than unitarianism;

a quote from a sermon given by Rev. Bird Wilson in 1831, to be found in Discussion on the existence of God and the authenticity of the Bible by Origen Bacheler, pgs 230-231

True Believers(tm)

a quote from Hoffer’s, The True Believer

The readiness for self-sacrifice is contingent on an imperviousness to the realities of life. He who is free to draw conclusions from his individual experience and observation is not usually hospitable to the idea of martyrdom… All active mass movements strive, therefore, to interpose a fact-proof screen between the faithful and the realities of the world. They do this by claiming that the ultimate and absolute truth is already embodied in their doctrine and that there is no truth or certitude outside it. The facts on which the true believer bases his conclusions must not be derived from his experience or observation but from holy writ.

my emphasis

The “holy writ” may be the Bible, the Quran, the Vedanta or the writings of Hayek and Friedman but they all share one characteristic; the ‘truth’ expounded in each text is the only ‘truth’, the facts be damned.

Other texts, which I’m sure will be thrown into the fray, such as Marx’s Das Kapital or Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals don’t have the same power of True Belief amongst those who advocate for some of the policies found in the two books.  As Simon Maloy put it, writing at MediaMatters

Do you know who Saul Alinsky is? If not, don’t fret. There’s an entire cottage industry of conservative writers working feverishly to reintroduce the storied community organizer to the world and document how he successfully overcame almost 40 years of being dead to pull the strings within the Obama White House.

The constant quoting and referral to Alinsky’s work by the right does seem to show that more on the right than on the left of the political spectrum are reading his book. This insistence by wingnut ‘pundits’ that the left must be following the dictates of a leftist radical from the Sixties is just one more indicator of the modern American conservative mindset – their own books are all true and show the right way to act therefore the left must thinks its holy texts are just as valid.

Various psychological studies have shown that those who call themselves liberal are more flexible in their thinking when compared to those who consider themselves conservative, which would seem to indicate that those who are considered ‘liberal’ are less likely to become True Believers.

The work grew out of decades of previous research suggesting that political orientation is linked to certain personality traits or styles of thinking. A review of that research published in 2003 found that conservatives tend to be more rigid and closed-minded, less tolerant of ambiguity and less open to new experiences.
It’s that whole, “libruls are so open-minded, their brains fall out” schtick, when what’s actually happening is progressive-minded folks are willing to listen to those who offer differing opinions, liberals understand nuance and are capable of seeing good points even in the midst of drivel.  The modern conservative, the True Believer, ‘knows’ the Truth, everything, and everyone, that disagrees with the Truth is simply nonsense = Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.

Republican desperation

Ed at ginandtacos says it best

In the next few weeks I am betting that we will see some truly bizarre Draft So-and-So campaigns on the internet and in the media. David Petraeus. Dick Cheney. George Bush the Elder. Jeb (again). Sarah Palin (again). Rudy Giuliani. Katherine Harris. Mike Gravel. Ross Perot. John Anderson. Oliver North. Ted Nugent. Baltimore Orioles OF Luke Scott. Sideshow Bob. Gennifer Flowers. WWE superstar John Cena. This inanimate carbon rod.

Desperation does terrible things to one’s judgment. But no matter how many names are floated in the upcoming weeks it is becoming increasingly likely that the Republicans are stuck, for better or worse, with the current field.

(insert deity of your choice) have mercy on us all.

I added the deity phrase to Ed’s words

Right wing tolerance

found at Ed Brayton’s place, with original formatting by John Jay

first things first.–

1.)take out the talking head media, and burn the new york times, the los angeles times and the washington post to the ground. draw and quarter the media, and shoot their remains from canons in the four directions of the prevailing winds.

rinse, lather, repeat as needed.

2.)take out all the incumbent leadership of both parties in the congress, and every self avowed socialist and communist in congress. give them all proper muslim burials at sea, just like osama bin laden.

eliminate pensions for congressional service. rinse, lather, repeat as needed.

3.)eliminate the faculty senates at harvard, yale, columbia, nyu and university of california at santa barbara. boil bill ayers, bernie dorhn and angela davis in canola oil, and feed their remains to the fishes.

they are all physical cowards. they should fall into line pretty quickly. repeat every ten years as a prophylactic, on general principle.


4.)now that the “arab spring” has brought enlightenment to the middle east, send all of the muslim immigrants back to their native countries, in boxes or tourist, their choice.

burn all the mosques. period.

just sayin’.

john jay @ 09.26.2011

p.s. burn the editors and contributors to “the daily kos” at the stake. i’ll think of something suitable for hilary clinton. bill, he has to room with jimmy carter in a clapped out pickup & camper on the edge of a southern peanut field, somewhere in arkansas: that’s about as close to a living hell as i can imagine for him.

and, throw all the living governors of new york, california, ohio, illinois, washington, florida and massachusetts into the fiery pits, from which there is no escape. sorry, jeb. but, i think that you were a skull & bones internationalist, too, weren’t you?

No need to say anything – let the fool speak for himself

I agree with Ed

Ed at ginandtacos.com has written a post that says exactly what I have been saying to family and friends in recent days


What Barack Obama really needs to do is to get angry, and that is why he will never succeed. He has spent his entire life preparing to fail in this position, because for a half-century Obama has worked hard to master the art of not coming off as the Angry Black Man. No matter how much he or the nation might benefit from a “Yes they deserve to die, and I hope they burn in hell!” moment, it’s just not going to happen. No matter how much it would help to get eye to eye with Eric Cantor and say, “Let me explain what happened to the last guy who tried to fuck with me,” it’s just not going to happen.

… He isn’t failing because Americans are racist (though they may be) or because the nation “isn’t ready for a black president” or something like that. He’s failing in part because, since childhood, he has seen the pathway to success defined by the expectations of (primarily white) people in positions of power. And the message has been reinforced hundreds of times over: do not scare the white people.

Go – read the whole piece. I agree with Ed